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Maltic
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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1301 Post by Maltic » Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:29 am

I have a few copies of the first volume ('Aldrich to King').

I've attempted to buy vol. 2 ('Kinugasa to Zanussi'), or both volumes together, a number of times on Amazon Marketplace, but I keep receiving just another copy of vol. 1...

It's a great book, but when it occurs to me to look up a particular director, it'll usually be someone from the latter part of the alphabet, and I'm, like, "doh!"

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1302 Post by reaky » Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:33 am

Yes, my immediate reaction to a dictionary of directors was “Ah, Lang, Ozu, Powell, Sirk, Sternberg, Welles, Wilder!” My taste in directors is oddly weighted towards the second half of the alphabet.

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1303 Post by domino harvey » Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:32 am

Love Roud, have his books on Godard and Langlois but haven't checked those comps out yet-- thanks for the rec!

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1304 Post by Maltic » Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:57 am

Langlois himself has an article on early French cinema in vol. 1.

I thought I'd give vol. 2 another go. It had been a few years since my last attempt. Hopefully Ebay does better than Marketplace.

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1305 Post by Maltic » Thu May 02, 2024 10:10 am

Thanks to eBay, I finally have both volumes.

A few of editor Roud's comments and updates (which he has put in bold after each entry/article in the book):

I do not share Gillett's and many others' enthusiasm for what little of Kinugasa's work I have seen. And I find it hard to believe that Kinugasa had not seen any German expressionist films before making his in any case overrated curiousity A Page of Madness.
The presence of Robert Kramer and the absence of Stanley Kramer from this Dictionary are not accidental.
It would seem that the 'spaghetti Western' has gone into decline. Leone has not been active of late (except as producer), and the Trinità series gets more mediocre with each film. A temporary eclipse of the genre, or is it played out? I'd plumb for the latter explanation, but we shall see.
[Per] Lindberg cannot even be said to be a 'subject for further research', because, as far as I know, very few people have seen any of his films. He is the only director in this Dictionary about whom this could be said. Is Cozarinsky right? Perhaps we shall find out one day; meanwhile, Lindberg has his place in this Dictionary as a salutary example of terra incognita in film history

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1306 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat May 04, 2024 1:59 pm

Does anybody know if there's an English-friendly physical copy or PDF available of the Cahiers du Cinema issue entirely devoted to analyzing Leos Carax' Les Amants du Pont-Neuf ?

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#1307 Post by beamish14 » Sat May 04, 2024 2:01 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 1:59 pm
Does anybody know if there's an English-friendly physical copy or PDF available of the Cahiers du Cinema issue entirely devoted to analyzing Leos Carax' Les Amants du Pont-Neuf ?
Is this the October 1991 issue with it on the cover, or is there another?

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#1308 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat May 04, 2024 2:40 pm

beamish14 wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 2:01 pm
therewillbeblus wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 1:59 pm
Does anybody know if there's an English-friendly physical copy or PDF available of the Cahiers du Cinema issue entirely devoted to analyzing Leos Carax' Les Amants du Pont-Neuf ?

Is this the October 1991 issue with it on the cover, or is there another?
I'd imagine so - I just know they did an entire issue on it around the time of release

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#1309 Post by domino harvey » Sat May 04, 2024 2:44 pm

It's available as part of a big torrent of Cahiers du Cinema on back channels (issues 301-500-something), but you'll need to translate it

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1310 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat May 04, 2024 2:54 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 2:44 pm
It's available as part of a big torrent of Cahiers du Cinema on back channels (issues 301-500-something), but you'll need to translate it
I saw that and figured I'd be able to find it in there, but didn't know the issue number and don't know how to translate. Thanks anyways!

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#1311 Post by TechnicolorAcid » Sat May 04, 2024 3:15 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 2:54 pm
domino harvey wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 2:44 pm
It's available as part of a big torrent of Cahiers du Cinema on back channels (issues 301-500-something), but you'll need to translate it
I saw that and figured I'd be able to find it in there, but didn't know the issue number and don't know how to translate. Thanks anyways!
Found this:
Supplement to the n°448, 01.10.1991, under the direction of Leos Carrax on the occasion of Les Amants du Pont-Neuf release's in cinema.

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1312 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat May 04, 2024 4:03 pm

Thanks, that seems to be the right one - There's just a long segment dedicated to it, but that makes more sense than an entire magazine!

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1313 Post by Orson Kane » Wed May 29, 2024 10:07 am

I'm looking for books about how to critically evaluate or read subtexts into films?

Recently, I listened to a Video Archives podcast with Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avary. Avary said that a significant moment in his filmmaking career came from a professor of film studies who would do in depth readings into films that otherwise might not be considered for detailed review. Specifically he referenced "Repo Man" and how his views on the film and Alex Cox completely changed as a consequence for a film he'd originally viewed as just a gonzo comedy.

The other reason is, I'm an aspiring filmmaker so also like to read critical analyses like this and see if I can do it off my own back for films I've found either too obscure or other without many redeeming qualities and see if I can figure something out of it. It would be great to be able to go back to films like Gasper Noe's "Irreversible" or Srđan Spasojević's "A Serbian Film" and see if there's anything worth critically evaluating for a future filmmaker.

Thanks

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1314 Post by domino harvey » Wed May 29, 2024 10:19 am

Monaco’s How to Read a Film, Bordwell and Thompson’s Film Art: An Introduction (as this is a textbook, you can probably find an older edition for next to nothing used), Thomson’s How to Watch a Movie

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#1315 Post by ianthemovie » Wed May 29, 2024 10:40 am

Learning how to critically evaluate and analyze film is the project of a lifetime, one that you shouldn't expect to master after reading a single book! That said, if you're interested in horror and exploitation film some other good foundational texts that might help you get started are Robin Wood's writings on horror cinema, such as the anthology Robin Wood on the Horror Film, and Men, Women, and Chainsaws by Carol Clover. Both of these authors were foundational in turning a serious critical eye on "low-brow" horror and slasher movies, analyzing them for their political and social subtexts with a focus on gender and sexuality. Richard Dyer might also be a good person to look at for this, as he performed intelligent critical readings of various "disreputable" cultural forms including slasher movies, pornography, disco music, etc.

These titles are slightly old and dated now but they still hold up pretty well, and the underlying analytical principles are rigorous. There have since been many more such attempts to critically examine low-brow/trash cinemas but to my mind they are not always very careful or nuanced.

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1316 Post by The Curious Sofa » Wed May 29, 2024 12:50 pm

It's often good to start with the classics and studying Hitchcock was my key to understanding subtext in genre/commercial cinema and there is so much writing on him. I especially like Robin Wood's Hitchcock's Films Revisted, The Women Who Knew Too Much: Hitchcock and Feminist Theory by Tania Modleski, The Philosophical Hitchcock: Vertigo and the Anxieties of Unknowingness by Robert Pippin but there are many others (just stay away from Donald Spoto).

If you are looking for writing on films on the intersection of art, trash and horror, look out for Stephen Thrower (especially Eyeball Compendium unfortunately OOP and hard to come by) and Kier-La Janisse (House of Psychotic Women), though both writers mostly deal with films from the 60s, 70s and 80s. They also contribute to many genre documentaries and DVD/BD commentaries.

A few essays are making a case for A Serbian Film, you'll find them on the Wikipedia page under "Academic Writing" and there may be similar ones on Gaspar Noe's films.

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1317 Post by therewillbeblus » Wed May 29, 2024 2:02 pm

The Curious Sofa wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 12:50 pm
Robin Wood's Hitchcock's Films Revisted
Highly recommended, if only for the best Marnie defense I've ever read. It's not common for me to reread the same bit of film criticism around every viewing, but I do with this one

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1318 Post by The Curious Sofa » Wed May 29, 2024 2:08 pm

"If you don't like Marnie, you don't really like Hitchcock. But if you don't love Marnie, you don't really love cinema.”

Robin Wood (also recommended by ianthemovie) is one of the best writers on film to make you understand subtext.

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1319 Post by domino harvey » Wed May 29, 2024 2:17 pm

If we are recommending actual works of film criticism/analysis to someone dipping their toes in the water, better to go with something like the Norton Reader for Film Analysis (also available cheap in a first edition), with dozens of films discussed in depth by dozens of critics

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1320 Post by NWRdr4 » Wed May 29, 2024 4:38 pm

I’ll echo the praise for Robin Wood. I don’t share many (if any) of the overtly political lenses that he utilizes to dissect films, but I still find his writings invaluable and return to them often. He has a knack for guiding you through his thought processes that helps you develop a critical eye of your own.

Since both he and Noé’s Irréversible were brought up earlier, it’s worth noting that Wood wrote a detailed essay of the film for Film International that can be found free online here.

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1321 Post by Mr Sausage » Wed May 29, 2024 5:10 pm

Is there a good collected edition of Wood’s writing?

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1322 Post by Maltic » Thu May 30, 2024 7:00 am

Apart from the horror anthology, 3 collections were published.

Personal Views (mid 1970s)
Hollywood from Vietnam to Reagan (mid 1980s)
Sexual Politics (mid 1990s)

They were later re-issued with new articles added.

The first one is still largely "auteurist", while the latter two have his brand of Marx/Freud and that.

They're all Leavisite, though. :)

Here's a detailed bibliography

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1323 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 30, 2024 7:26 am

That linked bibliography is a great resource, thanks for sharing! I had no idea Movie released a guide to the Apu Trilogy— I can recommend the editions on Chabrol and Antonioni, and I need to read the Bergman one. Didn’t know there was one for Penn either, and it covers all of his films I’d want to read about too!

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Re: The Best Books About Film

#1324 Post by Dr Amicus » Sat Jun 01, 2024 7:38 am

For Hammer fans, Wayne Kinsey has been producing limited edition books collating a lot of the information from his earlier magazines and books along with new details. I’ve missed ones on set design and Bray Studios, but have the first two volumes of The House That Hammer Built, a lavish film by film history of the Hinds/ Carreras years. Volume 2 arrived today, 1950-1954, and it looks hugely impressive. Available, at the moment at least, from the website at www.peverilpublishing.co.uk.

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