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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait de la jeune fille en feu [Portrait of a Lady on Fire]

#26 Post by Finch » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:15 pm

Excellent news!

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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait de la jeune fille en feu [Portrait of a Lady on Fire]

#27 Post by Luke M » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:16 pm

I wondered if they were going to release it with Céline Sciamma being featured on the Criterion Channel.



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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait de la jeune fille en feu [Portrait of a Lady on Fire]

#28 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:09 pm

Is this the first time Neon and Criterion have worked together?

Edit: Nevermind, just read the press release.

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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait de la jeune fille en feu [Portrait of a Lady on Fire]

#29 Post by mfunk9786 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:23 pm

I'll buy the streaming UHD copy, of course, because it'll be 2020 - but still excellent news for those looking for a disc

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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait de la jeune fille en feu [Portrait of a Lady on Fire]

#30 Post by FrauBlucher » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:24 pm

Here is the press release...
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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait of a Lady on Fire

#31 Post by ianungstad » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:49 pm

The press release makes it sound like there could be other NEON/Criterion releases in the future. Not sure what else Criterion would want to release. Universal is releasing Parasite. It could end up being a situation like IFC where the "big" titles get a studio release followed by a Criterion "special" edition a year later.

Netflix/Amazon/Neon/IFC. They've been signing some impressive deals recently! Now if they could only work something out with A24.

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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait of a Lady on Fire

#32 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:53 pm

Vox Lux + scholarly material = Heaven

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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait of a Lady on Fire

#33 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:05 pm

ianungstad wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:49 pm
The press release makes it sound like there could be other NEON/Criterion releases in the future. Not sure what else Criterion would want to release. Universal is releasing Parasite. It could end up being a situation like IFC where the "big" titles get a studio release followed by a Criterion "special" edition a year later.
Hopefully NEON is letting Criterion release 'Memories of Murder'.

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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait of a Lady on Fire

#34 Post by mfunk9786 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:29 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:53 pm
Vox Lux + scholarly material = Heaven
Don't do this to me. Anyway, Criterion, if you're reading this I'll write a booklet essay for this one for free

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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait of a Lady on Fire

#35 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:40 am

Hell, I’ll pay to write one. Life is just a crazy existential horror movie constructed from broken puzzle pieces anyways, right Brady Corbet?

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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait of a Lady on Fire

#36 Post by TwoTecs » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:31 am

No mention of the specific formats so I am free to speculate on this getting a UHD.

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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait of a Lady on Fire

#37 Post by Rupert Pupkin » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:42 am

that's great news!

I hope to see Adèle Haenel interviewed in the bonus by Criterion. In the short movie "2011 : Une heure avec Alice de Jean-Paul Civeyrac" (released by Kino as a bonus of the great movie "Mes Provinciales" on blu-ray) she talks about her favorite movies with the character played by Grégoire "2 de tension"...
In France, even "En Liberté!" was not released on blu-ray, so even if "Portrait of a Lady on Fire" is announced on blu-ray, it could be canceled.

Now, if Criterion could include as a bonus "La Naissance des pieuvres" or release it as a separate release) that would be fantastic, because this movie was only released on DVD and no blu-ray upgrade is planned. And I have seen no country which has released it on blu-ray (and no WEB-HD is available).

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Re: Portrait de la jeune fille en feu [Portrait of a Lady on Fire] (Céline Sciamma, 2019)

#38 Post by Never Cursed » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 am

therewillbeblus wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:08 am
The script is perfect and self-reflexive in how Sciamma engages her characters in discussions to try to channel unexplainable feelings such as love or music into the limits of language (or art, whether a film or a painting) only to show how futile these efforts are at expressing what must be accessed through intangible means. Ultimately the film isn’t interested in the validity of these arguments, only that they need to occur, if not verbally than in thought, to come to the realization that emotion is life.
I thought the Orpheus scenes (slyly organized into a screenwriter's group of three, like so many other motifs in this wonderful film) were the most direct communication of this idea. Marianne's depiction of a moment in the Orpheus myth is both perfect and unexplainable to anyone else in her world. The brilliance of the film is in allowing us not just insight into the personal meaning attached to Marianne's painting, and thus the depictions and interpretations of all kinds in the film, but also insight into the emotions that created that meaning, something impossible to us in our daily lives or to the characters in this film.
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Of course, Héloïse's rawness in the final shot (brought upon by a work of art) is only further confirmation of this thesis.
Yeah, this is as great a movie as everyone upthread (save Nasir) has said, and anyone who will miss out on seeing this theatrically would do well to pre-order the Criterion as soon as it is announced. Does anyone know if Sciamma's other films have English-friendly distribution? I hadn't heard of her before this, and now I rather desperately want to see what else she's done.

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Re: Portrait de la jeune fille en feu [Portrait of a Lady on Fire] (Céline Sciamma, 2019)

#39 Post by soundchaser » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:52 am

Never Cursed wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 am
Does anyone know if Sciamma's other films have English-friendly distribution? I hadn't heard of her before this, and now I rather desperately want to see what else she's done.
Tomboy and Girlhood are on a few major streaming sites and have physical releases available. Water Lillies has an OOP DVD that’s pretty expensive.

Of course, if you have the Criterion Channel, all three are currently available there.

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Re: Portrait de la jeune fille en feu [Portrait of a Lady on Fire] (Céline Sciamma, 2019)

#40 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:02 am

Never Cursed wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 am
Marianne's depiction of a moment in the Orpheus myth is both perfect and unexplainable to anyone else in her world. The brilliance of the film is in allowing us not just insight into the personal meaning attached to Marianne's painting, and thus the depictions and interpretations of all kinds in the film, but also insight into the emotions that created that meaning, something impossible to us in our daily lives or to the characters in this film.
Absolutely, the Orpheus conversation was a very creative way to bring about that idea and lay a seed for the way she chooses to capture her love. I’ll admit with some embarrassment that I didn’t see the most direct connection between the myth and the final painting until your comment but now I somehow love this movie more.

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#41 Post by Ted Todorov » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:04 am

Glad to hear all the praise of Portrait of a Lady - I saw it at NYFF and absolutely loved it.

Very curious what you think of Sciamma's other films now that they are on the Criterion Channel - I saw all of them when they were released at the Walter Reade and was very impressed by all of them starting with Water Lillies.

A couple of my related photos from the NYFF/FIlm at Lincoln Center:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_todor ... 191654696/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_todor ... 191654696/

A bunch more from the first part of the NYFF, including Sciamma's film: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_todor ... 1191654696

Sciamma from the Girlhood screening: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_todor ... 0185600040

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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait of a Lady on Fire

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#43 Post by domino harvey » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:00 am

hearthesilence wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:20 pm
Immediately the artist's gaze is fused with the audience's, and we have a model bringing to mind the movie stars that studios wanted to put up on screen (as well as how they wanted those women to be filmed and be seen). The way she's scrutinized by an artist made me very self-conscious about the way general audiences scrutinize movie stars, particularly women. I can't say this was the intention, but it feels like a natural by-product from a film that Sciamma said was a conscious attempt in bringing perspectives and stories to the cinema that she felt were missing.
Having finally seen this, I was most taken with this aspect as well, but I didn't see it in any way as a critique, especially since it possesses a clear positive charge for both participants. Indeed, it reminded me strongly of Carol's similar lingering depictions of commonplace objects given erotic framing; only here the "objects" are the disconnected individual corporeal components that make a unified image (such as an ear or the hands, to use the two features given the most attention). This is brought back around near the end when Haenel delivers what I thought was the most prescient and moving line of the film
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Wherein she tells her lover that eventually the painted cameo image she has of her will replace the actual image in her mind. And that's what painting, and all art, is: capturing in an image a moment in time, as seen by the artist, and preserved for audiences both familiar and strange in perpetuity. How often do our romanticized memories replace the reality? Is this any different than a painting that glosses over our flaws or a film that presents us with highlights of lives we haven't lived?

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Re: Forthcoming: Portrait of a Lady on Fire

#44 Post by DarkImbecile » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:48 pm

For the New Yorkers with time on their hands this weekend:

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#45 Post by DarkImbecile » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:46 am

NYTimes on how Sciamma subverts expectations regarding gender and sexuality in romance
Elizabeth Harris wrote:Sciamma, who wrote and directed the movie, told me: “There’s all this surprise that lies within equality, that’s the new tension. You don’t know what’s going to happen if it’s not about the social hierarchy, gender domination or intellectual domination.”

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